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Hooniversal Opinion: 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show

Greg Kachadurian November 19, 2015 LA Auto Show 14 Comments

The 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show is on this week and it has provided us with an early look at many of the new cars coming to our streets in the not too distant future. With over a dozen new car debuts under one roof, it’s an exciting time for those in the market for a car or for those of us who just like seeing something new and exciting. As always, I’ll bring you a mostly factual recap of the auto show’s biggest reveals in the Redusernab News this Friday; but today, we’re not too concerned about the press releases.

This is the part where some of the brilliant minds behind Redusernab get together and make fun of evaluate the new cars at the Los Angeles Auto Show. Some hoons were in attendance but most of us are comfortably judging the new cars from the comfort of our own keyboards, just as nature and Tim Berners-Lee intended. Click past the jump to see what we have to say and feel free to join in on the conversation yourself.

2016 Honda Civic Coupe

2016 Honda Civic Coupe

This thing still exists? It felt passed-up and irrelevant 3 years ago. I’m not sure it makes more sense today.

-Alan Cesar

 

This is an old Accord that they put a Civic badge on, isn’t it? It’s so big!

-Bradley Brownell

 

H8ters, the lot of you. Light, well-engineered, sporty, tunable (BOOOOST) and affordable. Quit yer bitchin.

-Tim Odell

 

The only thing I don’t like about it is that big piece of chrome across its nose. Same goes for the sedan. Otherwise they look like awesome little cars.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

What Tim said.

-Kamil Kaluski

 

Lamborghini Huracan LP580-2

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A rear-wheel-drive Lamborghini Huracan: coming soon to the front page of WreckedExotics.com!

Also I struggle when trying to pronounce its name right. The ‘H’ is supposedly silent so it’s pronounced “urracan”. It just sounds awkward to me whenever I say it. It’s like the planetarium episode in South Park where the guy is unable to pronounce the ‘t’ in plane’arium.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

The Huracan is the first truly pretty car Lamborghini has made since the Espada. The changes they’ve made to the front bumper of this one detract from that slightly. I do rather like the idea of a 2-wheel driven Lamborghini, but I just signed a 30 year mortgage on a house that cost about the same, so…
-Bradley Brownell

 

Curious if the impetus was really customers asking for “a more pure driving experience” or a way to knock like $30k off the price…?

-Tim Odell

 

Wow, it’s not often that we see a special edition Lambo.

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Ford Escape

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*Shouts from the back of a crowded room* BOOORRIIIIING!

-Bradley Brownell

 

The press info on the Escape (find it elsewhere!) highlights just how far we enthusiasts are from the reality of new cars in 2015. It’s all about mileage, safety and being increasingly connected (yet somehow not distracted?). It’ll sell great and hopefully they have full coffers to keep making halo cars like the GT350R and GT

-Tim Odell

 

The new TouchMyFord system ver. 3.0 is pretty great. Review coming soon.

Kamil Kaluski

 

2016 Volkswagen Beetle Dune

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In case you hadn’t already had enough Beetle nostalgia (the revived nameplate, nee New Beetle, is now nearly old enough to vote), here’s another attempt to drive you back in time. If you must relive the dune bug days, you should know that is still around.

-Alan Cesar

 

I want to hate this for two reasons: first because it’s little more than a stripe-and-spoiler package, and secondly because they didn’t even attempt to honor the off-road lineage implied by the name. But frankly, I don’t hate it because the styling touches really work well. That hardtop may be the most handsomely tweaked New Beetle yet.

-Tanshanomi

 

Hating on this is like telling grandma her new “zippy” sunglasses are out of style. Let people have their fun.

-Tim Odell

 

I don’t know why, but every time I read “Volkswagen Beetle Dune” my mind interprets it as “Volkswagen Dung Beetle”. I like the car but I’m just twelve.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

Anything to take the attention away from the #DieselGate. I won’t be happy until VAG gives us the RS4 Avant. Long live the diesel!

Kamil Kaluski

 

2016 Mini Clubman

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Mini’s design language has gone from retro-adorable to scared, barfing fish.

-Alan Cesar

 

A few weeks ago I saw a .gif of someone opening the rear doors of this car by swinging their feet underneath the rear bumper. It’s neat, but gimmicky. Hasn’t Ford had that for a few years now? Is that *really* a selling point?

I really loved the R55 version (2007-2014) of the MINI Clubman, and we’re still considering getting one to replace my wife’s daily driver. It’s such a cool design. This new one, not so much. Too big. Too bulbous. Too ugly.

-Bradley Brownell

 

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-Greg Kachadurian

 

I’m sick of your nerd rage about Mini not being small. That front end, though…man…maybe it works better in person.

-Tim Odell

 

If I I wanted a bigger car than the MINI, I’d buy a bigger car than the MINI, not a bigger MINI.

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Fiat 124 Spider

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It takes everything good about a Miata and makes it more Italian. The Miata this is based on originally became popular because it was a cheap and reliable alternative to finicky European roadsters. Now that this car is being reworked and powered by a brand at the very bottom of , I’m not so sure it’s a good thing anymore. Styling is okay from pictures but I’d need to see it in person before deciding.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

It’s a Miata with a factory turbo, which is a great thing. I always thought the original 124 looked a little doofy, so this fits right along with it. I suspect because of the styling, not many Miata buyers will opt for a 124. Which is kind of the point of this car anyway: to be a roadster that somehow doesn’t cannibalize MX-5 sales. They might have nailed it.

-Alan Cesar

 

This one dances up to that fine line between meaningful platform sharing and pointless badge engineering. I just don’t see the attraction of a MultiAir-powered Miata — maybe the Mazda mill is just too damn reliable for Fiat customers? Its only potential saving grace could be suspension that’s re-calibrated to make it corner flatter than the roll-happy Miata. I guess I should be happy they haven’t introduced a version with a narrow, vertical grille as the Wolseley 14/160.

-Tanshanomi

 

I want to like this car. I like Fiat. They’re plucky. They’ve got history. You can’t really be a car guy and not like Fiat, right? RIGHT? Well, I think so. Unfortunately, I think they’ve taken something that is very good and made it a little less good. I like the idea of the turbocharged engine. I even like the look of the car, it’s a little more cute and a little less ANGLES AND SHAPES than the Miata. That said, the Fiat is heavier. The Fiat is exaggeratedly longer. It has much longer overhangs front and rear. This has been done, at the rear anyway, to increase trunk space. No. Stop. Do not like. It’d be interesting to drive the two back-to-back, but I think I’ll stick with the Miata.

-Bradley Brownell

 

I like that the Miata platform’s getting extra volume through this partnership. More units = more engineering budget and more parts availability by the time I might own one. This is platform sharing done about 80% right: bulk of the chassis design the same, but different powerplant and suspension tweaks. They blew it by not giving it a trendy, over-designed interior. Why would someone spring for the Fiat over a Mazda if the interior is all clean-but-boring Japanese efficiency? Go hire the guys from what’s left of Spyker (googles to see if Spyker still exists…turns out they do…kinda)

-Tim Odell

 

It is based on one of the best sports cars on the market which should make it great right out of the gate. But what makes so many other Italian cars so great is that they are so imperfect. The engine of the 124 Spyder is made in Italy and it has its own suspension tuning, but is that enough to really give this Fiat its own identity?

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Lincoln MKZ

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The right amount of Continental concept styling in what should be a competitive package. I think Lincoln is serious this time.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

Can a personal luxury car even compete with anything out of Europe if it doesn’t at least offer a 400 horsepower package? Does Lincoln need its own AMG now?

-Bradley Brownell

 

This looks great and the spec sheet is impressive, but Lincoln has a generation of mediocrity to wipe from people’s memories before they’re seen as more than a $5/day upgrade at Hertz.

-Tim Odell

 

So it’s a Jaguar XF look-alike with a more powerful, front-wheel-drive based drivetrain. Got it. And how much will it cost?

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Mercedes-Benz SL

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Performance and luxury are logically opposed: comfort tends to be soft and soggy and racy tends to be harsh. Could this be the holy grail that offers both impressively suave indulgence and genuine twisty-road chops in equal measure? It certainly has the potential. I have to wonder how many of them will never venture farther afield than Rodeo Drive. Unfortunately, we have to wait until the 2017 model to find out. Oh, wait, that really has zero impact on my future automotive prospects anyway, doesn’t it? It does look like an awesome car for the population of whatever universe this actually exists in.

-Tanshanomi

 

I love the way the SL looks again. The last one turned me off completely from the SL to the point where I almost forgot it existed (not like I could afford one anyway), but finally there’s a gorgeous Benz roadster again. The way modern automotive technology has progressed means this really could be something special. Like a true boulevard cruiser by day and a back road warrior by night with the ability to swap roles at the push of a button. I also didn’t know the SL had a V6 at the base model. It just didn’t seem like the kind of car that would have anything less than a V8 to me. It’s a good V6 at least and the AMG version is still a thing.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

This is new? Also…don’t they have the AMG coupe/convertible thing that’s redundant to this? Either way, I’ve yet to meet a down-to-earth, cool person who drives one of these.

-Tim Odell

 

Why would I buy this over the SLK 55 AMG? Other than to show the world that I spend more twice the money on a tenth more of car…

Kamil Kaluski

 

2016 Nissan Sentra

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The Sentra used to be one of the best compact cars in the segment. The current Sentra isn’t exactly a great car. Or even a good car. I have hope that this facelift can help, especially considering the updated interior. I’m not holding my breath.

Hey Nissan, when are you going to make an SE-R that is any good? The B13 Sentra SE-R rocked everyone’s collective socks. Revive that kind of excitement and it’ll sell. I promise.

– Bradley Brownell

 

It’s basically unchanged. Same gutless 1.8-liter engine (the Ford Fiesta’s 1.0-liter turbo makes similar numbers). Same CVT across all but the base model. Is it possible to get excited about a Sentra anymore? This thing is about as desirable as the Dodge Dart. Hey guys, remember the Dart? That still exists too!

-Alan Cesar

 

A facelift can go a long way these days and it certainly has here. Nissan’s new styling is modern and edgy and I can’t really talk badly about it. But the compact game is very competitive these days, so I think Nissan will need more than a redesign to win back consumers.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

It looks just like the Altima. Corporate styling language my ass, same sausage in three different lengths.

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Buick LaCrosse

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Wow, . I have to wonder how many less-than-athletic Buick devotees would rather have a bench seat, or at least a narrow console down around seat level. Nope, I haven’t quite let go of the stereotype.

-Tanshanomi

 

See my Lincoln comment, except I care about Buick as a brand even less.

-Tim Odell

 

The LeSabre my dad used to own has tarnished my thoughts on Buick forever. This might change that. It looks nice and should have plenty of substance to back it up.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

This will make a wonderful Lemons racer in fifteen years. Can’t you just picture a park bench on that trunk?

Kamil Kaluski

 

Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport

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This image comes to us from because Porsche didn’t feel inclined to ADD ANY PRESS PHOTOS OF THE ONLY CAR THEY’RE UNVEILING THIS WEEK.

I am an unapologetic Porsche fanboy. I love almost everything they do. The GT4 Clubsport has me jumping up and down in my chair with glee. I look forward to seeing this car hit the race tracks. I suspect there will be several places this car can race, as Porsche would be foolish to not homologate this car for FIA GT4 class racing. I’ve heard tell that there will be a pair of them in Pirelli World Challenge. I wouldn’t be surprised to see IMSA replace the Gold category 997 cars of their Yokohama GT3 Challenge with spec GT4s. As it stands, only VLN Long Distance Championship, the Ultra 94 GT3 Cup Challenge Canada, and the Porsche Club of America’s Cayman GT4 Clubsport Trophy series have been confirmed. Porsche Cars Canada, if you’re reading, I’d love a chance to set a lap in one at CTMP. Give me a call. You know the number.

-Bradley Brownell

 

Pikachu-themed cars are so 2005.

-Alan Cesar

 

Cayman > 911, for sure. Unfortunately, they keep pushing them up-market. Where’s that BlueSport/914 successor they’ve been teasing us with forever?

-Tim Odell

 

Can someone wipe the drool/cum off Bradley’s keyboard?

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Mazda CX-9

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Desperately needed an update. Unfortunately, looks like they didn’t solve the problem of the “Big CUV” not actually being much bigger than their “midsize CUV” (because the CX-7 still exists, right?)

-Tim Odell

 

I LOVE Mazda’s Kodo design language and I think it’s made their new lineup the most gorgeous one yet. That being said, this CX-9 is the only one I’m not sure about yet. It looks alright I guess, certainly better than some of the other ones. Otherwise, it looks like it’ll be a competitive offering and I hope it sells well.

Greg Kachadurian

 

With vehicles such as the Honda Pilot and Toyota Highlander, developing a competitive vehicle in the three-row market segment is extremely challenging. What what I have seen, Mazda has done their homework. While I am sure that the turbo-four will be adequate for 90% of the people, I do question the lack of a V6 engine. A lot of people do tow light trailers with these vehicles and many do load them up with all the crap that a family of four requires for a week of skiing. Historically, turbo-fours in these applications lack the power of a V6 and the fuel economy of a four.

Kamil Kaluski

 

2017 Mitsubishi Mirage

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It no longer looks like part of a Buy One Get Two Free deal.

-Greg Kachadurian

 

Yes it does.

-Tim Odell

 

Buy One Get One Free, then?

-Greg Kachadurian

 

[All images © their respective manufacturers unless otherwise noted *cough* PORSCHE]

  • Citric

    Fine, it’s not functionally better than a Miata, and by no means does a convertible make sense in my area, but I see the Fiat and I want it. Gimme gimme gimme. It’s pretty and fun and cute and I want it. It is not rational but I love it and covet it.

    Other things:
    Lincoln – the colour used is bizarre, it makes the thing weirdly unfinished looking.

    Mitsubishi – It looks slightly less like a Geo from 1997! Though I guess Geo never glued chrome to the front of a Metro so we never really got a fair comparison.

    • 1977ChevyTruck

      I agree with you on the 124.

      I like the looks of the original 124 Spider better than that of it’s contemporaries, and I feel the same way about the new one.

  • Rover 1

    Lincoln continues on it’s quest to be Mercury.

    Eurosnobs can now buy a (less reliable?) Miata and wrongly boast that because it’s from a European manufacturer that it handles better.
    Normal people will continue to buy the Miata safe in the knowledge that it is a proper sportscar from a manufacturer that has actually WON the Le Mans 24hr race. And that it is easily the biggest selling sportscar in history. And the most successful sportscar racing on club tracks through-out the world.

    • JayP

      Other than the Conti the MKZ is the biggest news from Lincoln in years.
      400hp and AWD put it right there with the euro brands. The styling is a little bland but it’s on the right track.

      Rumors of a new Lincoln coupe based on the S550 Mustang are adding up. The 3.0L turbo in it would be perfect.

      • Sjalabais

        The Mustang is sort of chubby looking – it would be cool if Lincoln folks managed to stretch the whole thing to look long, sleek and elegant.

  • ramLlama

    Honda Civic
    —–
    Meh, it’s a Honda. It will be a solidly selling yuppie car, and I have no problems with that. The extended chrome grill bar makes it look like it has a unibrow, though.

    Mini Clubman
    —-
    when the wheelbase of your Mini is the same as your 1 series, you know you have jumped the shark.

    Fiat 124 Spyder
    —-
    I don’t like the looks, but then again, I want ALL the Kodo. It seems sufficiently different to be interesting though and keep from being called yet-another-badge-engineer. Color me intrigued.

    Lincoln MKZ
    —-
    Yay! A Lincoln that doesn’t look like a Ford, chrome and shiny! I, for one, will not miss the Baleen grille which was easily the worst part. The wire mesh is admittedly generic, but baby steps. The car looks a bit too VW for me, but again, baby steps. That being said, I hope the higher-ups at Lincoln realize that this probably won’t fix things but that doesn’t mean it was a bad idea.

    I feel about Lincoln the same way I feel about the Dallas Cowboys — years of disappointment mean I ain’t getting up in the morning for anything less than the semifinals.

    Mitsubishi Mirage
    —-
    It looks weirdly tall and narrow. Anyways, Mitsu is a dead brand walking in the USA, so I don’t car much about the Mirage.

    • Citric

      Mitsubishi is always on the verge of death, but repeatedly baffles Christendom by continuing to live.

      The new Outlander Sport is also interesting because it appears as though the facelift was done over a coffee break.

      • Vairship

        Well, they only had $4.50 to spend on the facelift, that’s why.

  • mve

    That MXZ looks more than a little like an XJ, which isn’t a bad thing.

  • Maymar

    I just keep seeing the new Civic coupe as an overinflated Toyobaru. It’ll be a great car, I’m interested to try out the new turbo engine (that’ll hopefully get a manual soon), but I’d rather just have the sedan or the rumoured hatch.

    The Fiat 124 strangely looks more like the last-gen Miata than the current car. The 1.4 MultiAir is a compelling enough difference to be intriguing – a 500 Abarth-ier Miata can’t be a bad thing. Ultimately though, cost would be the deciding factor for me. I know this is supposed to be more expensive than the Mazda, but hopefully the coming discounts (and coming from Chrysler, discounts will come) will bring it under the excessive $32k CDN base that Mazda wants.

    • Maymar

      Also, I want to strap Sting’s plastic bikini to the front of the Beetle Dune.

      • CraigSu

        The Beetle Dune – Feyd-Rautha Edition

  • Alan Cesar

    The more I look at the Fiat 124, the more I like it. The thing is growing on me.

  • JBsC6

    The new AWD Lincoln with 400 hp looks awesome.

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